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| Philadelphian | Jan 27 2016, 10:28 AM Post #91 |
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Fightapathy, A proper analysis. What is interesting is that Tarpley will give reasons why he has problems with Bernie, but LaRouche will not....but both will call him names....though at least Webster has reasons. |
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| Guest | Jan 27 2016, 10:36 AM Post #92 |
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G-Man Tarpley gets his #Mop-Up!!!! He must be thrilled, and recounting the glory of Sherman's 'March to the Sea", and Waco http://www.infowars.com/eyewitness-oregon-...nds-in-the-air/ |
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| fightapathy | Jan 27 2016, 10:49 AM Post #93 |
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Yeah. I believe that's where THE DEAR LEADER shows his ripe old age. There was a time when Lyn could give specific reasons why he thinks so-and-so is a killer and a British agent. His name-calling served to amplify his overall criticisms. But not anymore. These days, he's too distracted by the reverberations in his echo-chamber to do anything more than just lash out. Tarpley still has his full faculties at hand, and so he's able to mix a cocktail of criticism and demagogy that goes down smoothly. I think his analysis of Bernie is correct, and it appears that Bernie himself cannot believe the success he's been enjoying recently. I suppose we'll learn the truth if Bernie deliberately immolates himself before he can terminally damage Hillary's prospects. And I expect Tarpley to be one of the first to identify when and/or if this occurs.
Oh hey, since THE GRIFFIN loves the Civil war, I'm sure he'll be thrilled with the suggestion! |
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| Guest | Jan 29 2016, 04:21 PM Post #94 |
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Tarp on Trump full on call for a #Mop-Up http://tarpley.net/tax-wall-street-party-c...p-at-all-costs/ |
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| fightapathy | Jan 29 2016, 04:53 PM Post #95 |
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Oh yeah, I was listening to this one earlier. In further emulation of the DEAR LEADER, his fatherly mentor and role model, Dr. Webster THE GRIFFIN Tarpley gives a full PRESIDENTIAL ADDRESS to all members and associates of the United Front Agsinst Austerity and Tax Wall Street Party, and persons of good will throughout the world! To paraphrase: Trump is a fascist! Trump is a demagogue! His rise to power is like that of Mussolini, and Ammon Bundy is one of a thousand black shirts ready to march on Washington at a moment's notice. THE GRIFFIN's answer? Vote for Bernie. Or Grandpa Lyn's robot, Martin O'Malley. Apart from that, its gonna have to be GYMers and GYMettes swinging chains and beating the stuffing out of Trump and his Bundyist rough-necks, forcing bottles of castor oil down their throats! Yes... its always a riot to hear a violent demagogue denounce someone for their demagogy! |
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| borisbad | Jan 29 2016, 05:33 PM Post #96 |
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When I saw the beginning of Tarpley's address it almost looked like Lyn, Jr. sitting in his throne! The one thing to be said is that he only has a 35 minute address rather than a 1 to 2 hour address. As Shakespeare once said "brevity is the sole of wit!". |
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| man114 | Jan 29 2016, 07:38 PM Post #97 |
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Almost reminds me of LaRouche's old rant against Rand Paul... "You take a case like Rand Paul... This guy's a Nazi! He's a Killer! He's the enemy of civilization!" :lol: |
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| Philadelphian | Jan 29 2016, 11:24 PM Post #98 |
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Good to see this, 'Tarpley's Address to the American People' and recent comments here. Well LaRouche is going to have to pull out his glasses from the 60's and a bow-tie to try to match this fusillade by the G-man. It certainly demonstrates who the true successor of LaRouche with this 'historic' display of histrionics so rationally banging the table as all good people are urged to 'hold their noses' and vote for Bernie, all the while Webster joins the National Review and the whole Republican establishment in freaking out about 'fascist' Trump whom Tarpley likens to Sampson, wrecking ball whose only good is to destroy the Republican Party. Now if you compare Trump with the UFAA Platform, they are close...Trump is for a Tariff as is Tarpley. Trump is against austerity attacks on Social Security. Trump is for infrastructure like Tarpley. Trump is against these wars, Afhganistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. Trump would get along with Putin. Now Tarpley goes on a justified critique of Trump on immigration, though he seems to want to put anyone who does not agree with his Federalism into a concentration camp. Well at least Tarpley did not seem to be in glee about the murder of Lavoy Finicum, but then again he did get his call for the #Mop-Up the G-Man Tarpley tweeted the other day. I will also note that Tarpley has the bragging rights as regards forecasts as he emphasized one of his predictions, I think about the demise of the Republicans, to which Tarpley hates Trump so much he has to but Love his Enemies, for all the work Trump is doing in furthering the agenda for the grand UFAA takeover. It is rumored that mass defections from the Policy Committee are in the works as regards this Address by the G-Man. No more Fire-side chats, but full on strategy to get a full open floor fight at the Democratic Convention, where who knows what might happen. Tarpley for President: The Real Program Against Fascism! |
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| man114 | Jan 30 2016, 12:09 AM Post #99 |
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I think Tarpley's biggest problem is he split from the org too late. He's nearly 70 years old. He has some momentum going for him, but unlike LaRouche he's 20 years late to starting his own org and does he have the genetics to last another 20 years? LaRouche's family members were living into their 90s before modern medicine. He got the lucky end of the stick there. I'll still bet my money on Mad Mike and a breakaway. He's young, vibrant and likely nuts. His wife has similar views and can deliver it just as well. It's something Tarpley isn't he also isn't that charismatic but I think Mike could be if he didn't go full nutso on his rants all the time. If he smooths himself over he's got serious potential. Like I said there is something seriously different about Mike and I've watched these videos for years. Go watch some videos from when he first got appointed to the Policy Committee, watch some a few months in, watch some recent ones and watch some recent SanFran meetings. This guy knew about WWL! He's mentioned killing people & eating babies! He's in the Mitch Bitch video. He joined the org very late, with his wife and has an economics degree. His early videos seem like he was testing the waters to see how far he could go. I don't buy it, it doesn't add up. Someone college educated in economics knows the economy and would never buy into seasonal LaRouche economical whims that come and go. They'd look at the real scenario. Maybe for a year or two but not multiple years. I don't believe he's been brainwashed to that degree. His rants as of late only get an OK or yes because even LaRouche has no real clue what he's talking about most of the time. We're probably looking at one of three things here. Mike will try a breakaway or David Miscavige of the org., he is absolutely nuts, or he is trying to secure a top level spot following LaRouche's eventual death (perhaps try and win favor through SanFran with Helga and totally take over the US branch of the org). |
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| Philadelphian | Jan 31 2016, 01:33 AM Post #100 |
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Man114-I thought this thread was about Webster Tarpley, not Mike Stegner? Webster has been independent of LaRouche for a long long time. He has had an organization of activists around him for a long time, where actually he has been a vital participant and mentor in initiatives that are not just his own as seen with his participation in various antiwar configurations, generally as seen from the perspective of 9/11 Truth, but falling back upon the necessity of economic perspective in order to approach those problems. The UFAA/Tax Wall Street is a new formalization of a previously more underground approach. Webster has been making cogent proposals of policy and platform with historical precedent and has a highly developed perspective, upon studies in philosophy and history that have earned him a Phd as an outgrowth of his work on the Venetians. Thus he has his own body of work, books, radio show, interview guest on WBAI, Press TV, Russia Today. I think the issue is that Webster demonstrates life beyond LaRouche in the political and intellectual arena that is definitely not representative of a right wing reactionary stance at all, maybe a bit too left wing reactionary, but not a Neocon one like David Goldman, who might well have been an agent all along, of those who entrapped LaRouche into the right wing territory so easy to destroy. That would be a Goldman thread if there were to be one. |
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| man114 | Jan 31 2016, 01:55 AM Post #101 |
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I'm just running the speculations of what could happen with the SanFran branch of the LaRouche org. It's very possible Mike tries something similar to Tarpley's approach and tries to get the branch to defect with him. I'm familiar with Tarpley. He's a smart guy and I think what he realized at some point is he can use this by copying some of LaRouche's tactics for the growth of UFAA/Tax Wall St. To me it strikes me that he simply copied many elements of LaRouches approach only to adopt his perspective into that approach. I'll elaborate more on this further when I get some spare time. |
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| borisbad | Jan 31 2016, 04:24 PM Post #102 |
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Nobody's made mention of it for awhile, but when Dino Paoli and other European members defected, there was supposed to have been some type of reformation they entered into, sort of a Frankfurt school of intellectual critics on the left rather than the so-called activist "cadre" organization. I remember Laurent Maurewiec (sp?) being on the right wing neo con anti-Muslim agenda, but don't know what happened to the members that left in Europe a few years ago. I remember many hoped some would come forward on the Jeremiah Duggan issue. |
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| Philadelphian | Jan 31 2016, 05:22 PM Post #103 |
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Man114.... Fine and understood. Tarpley is not a copy cat, but it is ingrained and he is one of the producers of the genre, among many others who have been dumped, forgotten, marginalized, quit, died, suicide, or soldiering on..... |
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| man114 | Jan 31 2016, 05:44 PM Post #104 |
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While I think Tarpley may have taken organizing ideas from LaRouche don't forget LaRouche loves to steal other people's ideas and pass them off as his own. Just as Michael Kirsch found out with his "all good presidents have been assassinated" theory. |
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| Philadelphian | Jan 31 2016, 07:01 PM Post #105 |
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G=Man Tarpley Gets His #Mop-Up as Federal and State Government ambush and assassinate LaVoy Finicum and attempted murder of other individuals from the Malheur standoff in Oregon on route to a meeting with the Sheriff and other ranchers in the County. Here is who Webster hates, Lavoy Finicum the day before he was murdered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1DiMtcZXCA Here is first a short and a longer analysis of the #Mop-Up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRmbVDS4p4I&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4kYszZ7ens G-Man Webster Tarpley, FBI murder apologist, utilizes the fallacious justification of cold-blooded murder through mob-rule, the oligarch's distortion of democracy as regards the standoff, evoking in his typical manner historical parallels of his own cherry picked consideration of history. http://tarpley.net/gop-breakup-goes-forwar...ump-cruz-rubio/ Yup, old Commie 'Agenda 21' Tarpley cares nothing for the U.S. Constitution, just brutality. He calls for rounding up of "armed gangs" except mass murder Obama and gang, whom Tarpley has come to defend in his "just hold your nose" fashion. Yeah hold your nose as the G-Man Tarpley's storm troopers, shoot a man after he is down several times for good measure as then they pump bullets into the truck carrying the other occupants including two woman. |
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