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Is THE GRIFFIN building an alt org?; Helga, take note!
Topic Started: Jan 29 2015, 08:57 AM (28,163 Views)
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07:17 PM
THE GRIFFIN's followers certainly don't acquit themselves very well, do they? They're as crazy as their guru, but at least Tarp is articulate.

He certainly had no comeback when he was asked how many Jews Trump killed or what countries he invaded. :lol: I can't stop laughing as he looks so perplexed at the question.

If they don't have a comeback shouldn't they at least try the confrontational approach in such a situation like LaRouche supporters do in these situations? Perhaps he should watch Mike Steger in the infamous Mitch Bitch video.

I'm not sure calling Trump a Nazi pre election is the best course of action. LaRouche typically gets away with it because he waits until after the election, then the people disappointed their candidate didn't get elected that don't approve of the results or policies enacted post election and rest on the political fringe accept it and LaRouche just gets labeled as a fringe wacko.

It seems that Tarpley is jumping the gun on this or at least not executing it properly. It might attract some anti Trump people but it seems like when they showed up at the Jewish rally it's just incredibly poorly executed in terms of planning.

Speaking of articulate, why does Tarpley come off that way but every time you run across a video like this his followers it always seems like they are unable to explain anything about what exactly the TWP advocates?
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THE GRIFFIN's followers certainly don't acquit themselves very well, do they? They're as crazy as their guru, but at least Tarp is articulate.

He certainly had no comeback when he was asked how many Jews Trump killed or what countries he invaded. :lol: I can't stop laughing as he looks so perplexed at the question.

If they don't have a comeback shouldn't they at least try the confrontational approach in such a situation like LaRouche supporters do in these situations? Perhaps he should watch Mike Steger in the infamous Mitch Bitch video.

I'm not sure calling Trump a Nazi pre election is the best course of action. LaRouche typically gets away with it because he waits until after the election, then the people disappointed their candidate didn't get elected that don't approve of the results or policies enacted post election and rest on the political fringe accept it and LaRouche just gets labeled as a fringe wacko.

It seems that Tarpley is jumping the gun on this or at least not executing it properly. It might attract some anti Trump people but it seems like when they showed up at the Jewish rally it's just incredibly poorly executed in terms of planning.

Speaking of articulate, why does Tarpley come off that way but every time you run across a video like this his followers it always seems like they are unable to explain anything about what exactly the TWP advocates?

The reason they can't argue back is because they need THE GRIFFIN to do it for them. That's why all he could call out was "I stand with Webster Tarpley," displaying the cult mentality even more conspicuously than that ridiculous poster.

And you're very right in that it's a dumb move to call Trump a Nazi. It would probably be more effective to color him a facist. That would be close enough (from their point of view), wouldn't it?


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Calling him a fascist would be just as effective for what they're trying to accomplish without the same negative connotations brought up by calling him a Nazi.

Sure calling him a Nazi is more in your face but it's backfired so far several times.
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Calling him a fascist would be just as effective for what they're trying to accomplish without the same negative connotations brought up by calling him a Nazi.

Sure calling him a Nazi is more in your face but it's backfired so far several times.

And yet:

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I see SS-Gruppenführerin Dianella von Walls is wearing her prison stripes again --- as well as a shiner on her left eye. Did a LYMette sock her in the face during one of their marches for -- I mean, AGAINST Nazism in DC?

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Daniela's spiel that accompanies that pic is a giant rant against Hillary. She says to "hold your nose and vote for Bernie".

Later on in it she writes-

"I therefore call on primary voters to support Bernie Sanders in the remaining states. Decent Republicans should of course be horrified by the choices they are offered on the GOP ballot, and should therefore cross over to the Democratic side and also vote for Bernie. This does not imply that Bernie is qualified for the presidency or that he has the requisite requirements of political courage."

You'd think that given their Tax Wall Street mantra that Bernie would be getting a resounding endorsement here.

Tarpley seems less hesitant to endorse Bernie on his Twitter feed. I also saw the one where he said Bernie should label Trump a Nazi. For some reason I just can't see this happening or being a good idea. :lol:

Why doesn't Tarpley just run as an Independent? Too busy posting on Twitter?

At least Tarpley will kind of recommend an actual candidate, after listening to The Fireside Chat last night I'm fairly certain LaRouche would rather endorse Putin.

Tarpley also can't seem to get enough of posting pictures of his Trump Nazi posters all over Twitter. One of them was from a rally in San Francisco. Not sure it's a good idea to be campaigning on Mad Mike Steger's turf, he seems just a tad unstable.
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I was on the conference call last night.

This is the saddest group of losers in the world. They wanted Tarpley to provide pointers on how to deal with people like Rob Dew (of Infowars) if they encounter him at Trump rallies.

You mean to tell me the all-powerful Tax Wall Street Party, lead by the world's foremost antifascist Dr. Webster THE GRIFFIN Tarpley, who aim to stop Trump, need their hand held when it comes to confronting the likes of Rob Dew?
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Holy moly WWW, I just saw the video you posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znPTcUCp9tQ...=youtu.be&t=25s


Doctor Webster the Griffin Tarpley has to set up a cadre school of sorts to get his troops moving. I have to give the good Dr credit for his web site though . He is light years ahead of LPAC on content and it looks like he is making his org more appealing in a parallel platform .

The end of the video has little kids who sound off for Trump and hold signs calling for the repeal of the ACA. I think they were infants when the first vote was taken to repeal the ACA and cut child health care and Medicaid for children programs.
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This is the saddest group of losers in the world. They wanted Tarpley to provide pointers on how to deal with people like Rob Dew (of Infowars) if they encounter him at Trump rallies.


I have to say, that video of the Trump Nazi Guy cursing and swearing and being a total sour puss really convinced me of the need for radical ego-stripping sessions for the GYMers and GYMettes -- conducted by THE GRIFFIN, of course. They need to be taught to put on a happy face for the cameras, and save their hostility for meaningful interventions like the kind Daniel Burke gets away with -- such as having the Trump Nazi Guy dropping his pants in front of Roger Stone and emitting flatulence or something.

Get to ego-stripping the membership, Herr Doktor -- before your angry cadres drive away supporters faster than the endless doses of Nazi salutes and swastikas from your posters and daily briefings! Speaking of which...

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I have to give the good Dr credit for his web site though . He is light years ahead of LPAC on content and it looks like he is making his org more appealing in a parallel platform/


I'm not certain if THE GRIFFIN's site has any more quality content than THE DEAR LEADER's; however, I will grant him all due credit for being prolific. He really pumps its out.

Day after day, week after week, month after torturous month, THE GRIFFIN pumps out manifesto-sized "Morning Briefings" tying every instance of Imperial and Nazi German history to the candidacy of Trump-p-p-p.

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On May 21, 1935, Hitler delivered what was perhaps his most famous “peace speech” to the German Reichstag. Notice the frequency with which the Nazi dictator pronounces the word “peace.” Compare his cynical promises to his later deeds ... This is the idiom of Hitler then, and it is the idiom of Trump today ... After Munich, Hitler said: “I have no further territorial demands in Europe.” But of course he did – he wanted the rest of Bohemia and Moravia, and then he wanted parts of Poland. If we look at Trump’s foreign policy speech of last week, we see a similar tissue of lies.


Sounds reasonable. Only the other day, I swore I heard Trump-p-p-p at a rally shouting,

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Yeah, yeah. We're gonna, you know, we're gonna make Mexico pay for that wall. They're gonna pay for it. They're gonna pay. An' then we're gonna annex the rest of Bohemia and Moravia, before moving on to Poland. But how about those hats, eh folks? They're real nice. Just like my steaks and wine. And my University. But no, folks. Poland's gonna pay.


One of the reasons I've been attracted to THE GRIFFIN's programme all these years is because of his historical anecdotes. I rather find it thrilling that someone else can mention the influence of the Second Schleswig-Holstein War on various events that ended up impacting the course of history and culture. One doesn't find commentators doing that sort of thing.

But then, one doesn't find radio commentators-turned-would be-cult leaders building a so-called political party to promote anti-austerity -- only to use it to promote Adolf Hitler comparisons on a near daily basis, either!

Today's mile-long briefing was an exception. Hamilton was treated to a doctoral dissertation, complete with the comparison of Aaron Burr to Trump-p-p-p, but that's an aberration. No. According to Herr Doktor, Trump-p-p-p-p is the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler, only one thousand times worse!

One of my favourite "Griffinesqe Stretches" (sounds like a Yoga position, doesn't it?) originates in the March 31st briefing. There, the masters of German race hygiene foretell the rise to power of the superman, the voelkisch Messiah, the leader a nation is blessed by the Sippe only once every thousand years -- Donald Trump-p-p-p-p. Friedrich Schopenhauer, Ludwig Gumplowitz, Friedrich Nietzsche, Oswald Spengler, Houston Stewart Chamberlain -- all of them forecasted Trump-p-p-p!!

http://twsp.us/briefing/20160331

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Far be it from us to accuse Donald Trump of having read books of philosophy, but we do have the testimony of his disgruntled the first wife, Ivana, that Il Duce of Jamaica, Queens, kept a copy of Hitler’s speeches in his bedroom for frequent consultation. Even without reading anything, Trump could have absorbed Spenglerian pessimism from his political advisers over a period of years. He may even have read Spengler on the Internet.


Why go to Spengler directly when we have THE GRIFFIN's flawless interpretations to guide us through the onset of the apocalypse like a Nostradamus of our age?

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Oswald Spengler (1880-1936) [wrote] The Decline of the West (1918, with the second volume in 1922) ... may be considered one of the most extreme and comprehensive formulations of historical pessimism and cultural pessimism in recent centuries. It reeks of Trumpism.


That's right, GYMers and GYMettes: Spengler was a Trumpist and indoctrinated early NSDAP old fighters with the Zeitgeist of Trumpism prior to their Beer Hall putsch!

...Didn't you learn that in school?

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Gumplowicz has therefore been classified as a “Cosmic Malthusian” and a very reactionary social Darwinist.


Easy does it, Webster. Nobody badmouths Malthus like THE DEAR LEADER. You got nothing on him, sonny.

Our historiographic hero sums it all up by offering an alternative that is strikingly plagiaristic, in my educated opinion:

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Rather, the nation needs a mission. This can only be to lead the world into an era of economic recovery and unprecedented material and cultural prosperity. And this must be supplemented by assuming a role second to none in the permanent colonization of nearby space objects as an imperative of economic and cultural development – in the service of optimism. With that, the pessimistic mysticism and solipsism of Gumplowicz, Spengler, and Trump will be finished once and for all.


Yep, kiddies: ONLY A MANNED MISSION TO MARS can save mankind from the impending New Venetian Dark Age wrought by that Spenglerian maniac, Donald the Trump-p-p-p!

...I wonder where THE GRIFFIN got that one?
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I was on the conference call last night.

This is the saddest group of losers in the world. They wanted Tarpley to provide pointers on how to deal with people like Rob Dew (of Infowars) if they encounter him at Trump rallies.

You mean to tell me the all-powerful Tax Wall Street Party, lead by the world's foremost antifascist Dr. Webster THE GRIFFIN Tarpley, who aim to stop Trump, need their hand held when it comes to confronting the likes of Rob Dew?

That must have been interesting. Perhaps making some argument, any argument, would be better there than standing there saying "what?".

Maybe they should watch Mad Mike Steger's "Mitch Bitch" video. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QHqUoIO5RFI
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Is anyone going to the Left Forum in New York this Saturday-Sunday? THE GRIFFIN and his sycophants will be there. If anyone is attending, maybe see if you can pick up some gossip and post it here.

Thanks.
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In a post from June 8th of last year, I wrote the following about THE GRIFFIN and the left forum:

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In classic LaRouchian style, THE GRIFFIN proudly exclaimed that his revolutionary cadre succeeded in SAVING The Left Forum from the vile grip of insane dupes of the CIA limited hangouts (Edward Snowden, Julian Assange et al.) and color revolutions. That implicitly means, "I stopped well-known CIA hack Lyndon LaRouche in his tracks."

"Gone are the days of swooning!" as the good doctor boasted. He also reminded us that Glenn Greenwald himself accused Tarpley of being the origin of the Snowden Limited Hangout Operation conspiracy. The doctor treats it like an honor, instead of the insulting smear it was intended to be.

"And the great poobahs were not there!" chortled Tarpley. "Amy Goodman was not there! Michael Moore was not there! Gnome Chomsky was not there!" THE DEAR LEADER was not there, either. But I guess his poobah days are long gone.

Tarpely also stated his UFAA/TWSP dominated six panels or forums, but there was a Trotskyist putsch attempt by the British ISO, who monkey hammered 25 forums into subservience. (Tarpley always makes these events sound like the storming of the Winter Palace.)

Uh oh. If THE GRIFFIN is hating on the British, as he did several times in this edition of WORLD CRISIS RRRRRADIO, then Lyn's position is dire. If there is Battle for Manhattan, then it must come down to a fight between UFAA/TWSP and the IOS. Dennis Speed and Diane THE STARE will have to stand aside with their Obama Mustache posters and take notes.


So, I bet the Reichsfuehrer-TWSP will bring along some heavies this time, to make sure his GYMers & GYMettes seize control of more panels than the treacherous British socialists or CIA limited hangouts or mealy Chomskyites. And I can't wait to learn if SS-Gruppenfuehrerin Daniella von Walls gets another black eye for running an intervention.

Here are further details about the TWSP Storm Troopers at the Left Forum:

PANEL 1, Session: 2, Room: 2512
Time: Saturday 12pm - 1:50pm
COINTELPRO 2016: The New Age of Active Measures by the Post-9/11 National Security State


PANEL 2, Session: 3, Room: 1.125
Time: Saturday 3:30pm - 5:15pm
The Destruction of the Republicans as a National Party – An Agenda for United States Political Reform


PANEL 3, Session: 4, Room: 1.125
Time: Saturday 5:20pm - 7:10pm
The Donald Trump Presidential Campaign: How to Fight the Rise of Fascism in Our Time
(with special guest star, the TRUMP NAZI GUY from the Rob Dew video?)


PANEL 4, Session: 5, Room: 1.75
Time: Sunday 10:00am - 11:50am
It's Time for Alexander Hamilton the Leftist: Hamilton's American System of Political Economy Is the Key to Defeating Wall Street and Finally Organizing an Economic Recovery Starting With Infrastructure

Speakers: Reichsführer-TWSP Webster der Griffin Tarpley, SS-Gruppenführerin Daniela von Walls, SS-Hauptsturmführer Kyle von McCarthy, SS-Standarteführer Chris von Rieth, SS-Mann Gregory von Edwards

"NOTE: IF YOU CAN ONLY COME FOR ONE DAY, THERE ARE 3 PANELS ON SATURDAY BETWEEN NOON AND 7PM, FOLLOWED BY POLITICAL DISCUSSION OVER DINNER WITH TWSP MEMBERS INCLUDING WEBSTER TARPLEY"

Hah! Guess who's paying THE GRIFFIN's dinner bill? Not the Trump Nazi Guy, and not THE GRIFFIN himself.
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WAR!! IT'S WAR between Alex Jones and THE GRIFFIN!!

From the Infowars site comes this headline: Is Donald Trump a Nazi? The Tax Wall Street Party sure seems to think so.

An infowars reporter (Zimmerman) confronts a GYMer & GYMette at some anti-Trump-p-p-p rally. Surprisingly, they seem to have heeded advice from last week's conference call, because they are both polite and know their talking points -- or else they were subjected to brutal ego-stripping conducted by THE GRIFFIN to keep them smiling -- which they did throughout. They were certainly nothing like the foul-mouth oaf from Rob Dew's run-in with the TWSP sturm-abteilung. In fact, on today's show, Jones plays the clip and states its the only one from the rally he could play on radio due to the excessive swearing from the other people interviewed. So, GOOD JOB polishing up the skulls n bones on your followers' lapels, Herr Doktor! Check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GkcNDfqMhw

But is this really a case of war between Jones and the Good Doctor? As we've discussed here, THE GRIFFIN was a regular guest on Jones' show, sometimes as often as monthly -- until Tarpley began organising his own mini-cult in the form and fashion of THE DEAR LEADER's org, and his talking points pissed off Jones. Things seem to have turned quite hostile betwixt the two ever since Jones became a trumpeter for Trump-p-p-p.

But on the other hand, millions upon millions of people across America now know all about the TWSP. They are getting free publicity in a way that THE GRIFFIN's previous big efforts on PressTV and Belarusian News 1 could never achieve. Add to that the fact that a great many listeners of Jones rather hate Trump-p-p-p, and the Fußsoldaten are going to balloon for the TWSP blitzkrieg come the summer and fall.

Diane THE STARE needs to pay attention to this: She thinks she's building a battalion out of a thousand little old ladies attending Handel Messiah concerts to march forward in the name of Lyndon LaRouche -- but meanwhile, THE GRIFFIN's got a full armored division at the ready courtesy of his supposed arch-nemesis Alex Jones!
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I hate that these guys would be a credit to THE GRIFFIN. If he had been there, things may have been more bad-tempered. Tarpley is obnoxious that way. But no matter how many more join this kooky org, TWSP will remain fly-by-night with Webby at the helm.
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THE GRIFFIN's website features lots of photos from that anti-Trump-p-p-p rally including the GYMer & GYMette interviewed by InfoWars. Interestingly, this rally was held in New Jersey but WHERE is Diane THE STARE and the LYMers & LYMettes to compete with THE GRIFFIN's cadres, hmmm?

Hardly a peep from Herr Doktor on his "successes" at the Left Forum. However, he did post a video of his presentation, which lasted nearly 90 minutes. Tarpley urges all people of good will to "spend the next 6 months of their lives" fighting the Nazi Fascist Donald Trump, who has received THREE BILLION dollars of free television advertising."

Boy, you've got your work cut out for you, Herr Doktor.

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